Comments on: More Stack & Tilt Analysis

By: Thomas Jensen

Thomas Jensen — Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:30:34 +0000

Maybe it’s been adressed before, but in your ‘top of the swing’ picture, you draw a line showing that Tigers centre of the shoulders is above his right hip. As I see it, that line is simply drawn incorrectly. It’s way left of the actual centre, with that corrected there really isn’t much difference between the two positions except that Tiger has a fuller shoulder turn.

Rgds

By: sunday

sunday — Sat, 14 Aug 2010 23:27:08 +0000

I started 3 weeks ago with the stack and tilt swing….
I understand that some people are sceptic about the concept, and it is not for everyone. My problem was hitting the ball fat and preferred having the ball in the semi rough over the fairway, so i could get the club underneath it.
Not anymore !

Now I love tight lighs, prefer the fairway, lowered my handicap from 9 to 7,4 (in three weeks!)and more importantly, enjoy the game again. Going forward in golf is great, and the sound and feel of compressing the ball much better is just great!

I am sold !

By: Jake

Jake — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:58:55 +0000

Forgot one more thing…Once the backswing is complete, what starts the down swing? Are the hips sliding laterally toward the target? Are the rotating back to square and then sliding laterally and up (extending the spine)? On my video, by the time I make contact with the ball, my lower body has shifted so much to the right that the ball is almost at my right arm pit and my right knee has bent in so much that it is actually inside of the golf ball (RT handed golfer). This seems like too much of a lateral shift to start the downswing.

By: Jake

Jake — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:52:12 +0000

I have a question about the backswing on the ST. I have taken some video of my swing and it seems that the club is laid off at the top and that my left knee is pointing more towards my right foot than at the ball. I think this is because I am not straightening my right leg completely, there is still a slight bend in it. I think the club is laid off at the top because I am taking too long of a backswing. The club isn’t parallel with the ground, but it is close.

So…how long should the backswing be and should my right leg be completely straight so my left knee doesn’t point at my right foot?

Thanks

By: Stack and Kill it

Stack and Kill it — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:31:53 +0000

Especially if you are somewhat strong the S&T is for you! I have been playing for 6 years and shoot in the high 70′s. As everyone above has mentioned they are on an eternal quest to “pure” their irons. My only thought when I play is to have my hands as far ahead of the ball as possible. While this may seem like it would smother the ball, the steep angle from S&T has me hitting high draws all day. My friends always comment on the size of my divots, and I say “I didn’t know you were the superintendent”. One common flaw with S&T is thinking a short backswing needs to be fast. Not true. Good luck

By: Jake

Jake — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:09:15 +0000

Hello All,

I have been reading the posts here and got the DVDs last week. After watching them, I headed out to the range to try it out. When I first started golfing, I played for the first 5 years or so without any lessons. The firs lesson I took, the instructor told me I was straightening my right leg on the back swing and it looked like I had a reverse pivot. This felt natural to me, but I took his advise and started using it. I have had moderate success with it, but it never stuck. I would have good days and really really bad days. When I heard of the stack and tilt, I figured I would give it a try because it was what felt natural to me.

So I went out yesterday to hit some balls. I hit some really nice shots and some not so nice ones. I have to say that for the most part my contact definately improved with the irons. I was even drawing some balls with a 7 iron and I didn’t slice it (a big problem of mine). However, I was pushing and pulling some shots too. I have to agree with most of you, the drive and woods aren’t really responding to the ST swing. I found that if I hover the clubhead at address, it helped some. I think I just have to keep at it and pratice practice pratice.

Overall, I am impressed witht he ST swing.

By: Double Eagle

Double Eagle — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:35:44 +0000

Tom,

Based on three years worth of feedback from a lot of people, I’d have to say yes. If you commit to it and actually spend some time working on developing the fundamentals, I see no reason why you wouldn’t see success with it.

Best of luck!

By: Tom Duggan

Tom Duggan — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:00:18 +0000

I enjoyed your articles very much. One question. I am a high hanicap golfer (15), 59yrs old who plays once a week. Do you think the stack and tilt swing would be good for me to switch too.

Thanks, Tom

By: Mitchellray

Mitchellray — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:19:31 +0000

Hello,
Congradulations, you may have hit upon the real basis underlying the ‘Stack and Tilt’ methodology.
First, I would like to suggest that MacKenzie, in the images, does not appear to be executing the Stack and Tilt methods well. There are many inconsistencies with the abc’s of it.
Second, Tiger would appear to exhibit more of the S&T’s characteristics than MacKenzie.
Here’s where you may have done it! Tiger’s hip tilt from rear to front at address is akin to the position (orientation) that S&T wants you to achieve in the backswing, i.e. the stacked hip position.
If one will try to tilt the hips in that manner at address and prior to initiating the backswing, it may be found that a more fluid hip shift, first rear, and then forward on the downswing will be forthcoming.
This yields a very similar feel to the S&T’s relatively weight forward positions through and after impact, but with more inertia. Also, since S&T has one sliding the hips forward on the downswing, it is similar to the hip shift associated with the transfer of weight from rear to front leg in more traditional schools of execution theory. The stated difference is that S&T has one sliding the hip past the front post, whereas traditionally, the hip is to hit the invisible wall and rotate to clear the path (interpretaion summary).
As a related comment, Tiger can easily be seen to regularly swing ‘out of his socks’ as he comes through impact into the follow through. This is, I believe, exactly what Stack and Tilt asks you to do by stretching past impact.

By: Double Eagle

Double Eagle — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:14:28 +0000

Coleman, I’m sorry to hear about your heart troubles. Not only because it’s a life and death matter, but I’m sad to hear that it’s forcing you to possibly give up the game.

The Stack and Tilt definitely isn’t what you want because that’s a very rotational swing. I’m not sure what to recommend. First and foremost, I recommend working with your doctor to try and find a compromise that doesn’t put your life in jeopardy. If he thinks it’s safe, then an arms-only swing might work for you. You would lose distance, but at least you’d be able to continue playing.

Best of luck trying to work something out and hopefully if you do have heart surgery in the future, it will allow you to play again.