Comments on: Triple-X: Jim McLean Updates His X-Factor Concept http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/ My Quest to Become a Golf Pro Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:20:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Book Review: Golf Digest’s Ultimate Drill Book http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-5766 Book Review: Golf Digest’s Ultimate Drill Book Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:17:34 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/#comment-5766 [...] McLean is also well known for his X-Factor swing concept. [...] [...] McLean is also well known for his X-Factor swing concept. [...]

]]> By: Frustrated golfer http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-1255 Frustrated golfer Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:06:28 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/#comment-1255 I have been trying to keep up with all of the different approaches that come out of the instructors but it seems they want us to be doing things that are physically not possible for me. Mike Pedersen raises a really good point about the physical part of golf so I wanted to share some information that will be discussed in a webinar. It's good to see someone is at least trying to address this. _____________________________________________ Join us as we take a technical and scientific look at a recent Golf Digest article written by instructor Jim Mclean. In this article Jim describes the Triple-X Factor: a more dynamic explanation for the original X Factor. We will explore the concepts outlined by the article with a scientific and biomechanics microscope in an effort to more effectively educate the golf teaching/training/playing public. <a href="https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/935136750">Click here</a> Title: Exploring the Triple-X Factor Date: Thursday, January 17, 2008 Time: 7:00 PM - 8:00 PM EST I have been trying to keep up with all of the different approaches that come out of the instructors but it seems they want us to be doing things that are physically not possible for me. Mike Pedersen raises a really good point about the physical part of golf so I wanted to share some information that will be discussed in a webinar. It’s good to see someone is at least trying to address this.
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Join us as we take a technical and scientific look at a recent Golf Digest article written by instructor Jim Mclean. In this article Jim describes the Triple-X Factor: a more dynamic explanation for the original X Factor. We will explore the concepts outlined by the article with a scientific and biomechanics microscope in an effort to more effectively educate the golf teaching/training/playing public.

Click here

Title: Exploring the Triple-X Factor

Date: Thursday, January 17, 2008

Time: 7:00 PM – 8:00 PM EST

]]> By: Double Eagle http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-1188 Double Eagle Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:17:04 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/#comment-1188 That's something that a player needs to develop with his/her own pro or coach. A self motivated player that wants to learn the total game on his own has to understand that it will rarely come from one source. But working with a coach can help a player wade through all the details and truly learn it all. Coaches/pros should be aware of the importance of stuff like flexibility and guide students in that area. But, we also know that most players aren't going to do that. That's why it's so important for us to reiterate to players that there's a lot more to golf than three X positions. That’s something that a player needs to develop with his/her own pro or coach. A self motivated player that wants to learn the total game on his own has to understand that it will rarely come from one source. But working with a coach can help a player wade through all the details and truly learn it all. Coaches/pros should be aware of the importance of stuff like flexibility and guide students in that area.

But, we also know that most players aren’t going to do that. That’s why it’s so important for us to reiterate to players that there’s a lot more to golf than three X positions.

]]> By: Mike Pedersen Golf http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-1187 Mike Pedersen Golf Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:07:48 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/#comment-1187 I agree with you Mike, but how about golf improvement that consistently covers ALL aspects? Mental, mechanics, physical, etc... I agree with you Mike, but how about golf improvement that consistently covers ALL aspects? Mental, mechanics, physical, etc…

]]> By: Double Eagle http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-1186 Double Eagle Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:03:58 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/#comment-1186 I agree that golfers need to work on being a lot more flexible, Mike. Can't blame McLean for putting the research out there. Golfers who are serious about their games need to educate themselves about ALL aspects of golf, including fitness/flexibility. I agree that golfers need to work on being a lot more flexible, Mike. Can’t blame McLean for putting the research out there. Golfers who are serious about their games need to educate themselves about ALL aspects of golf, including fitness/flexibility.

]]> By: Mike Pedersen Golf http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-1185 Mike Pedersen Golf Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:29:22 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/#comment-1185 Mike you know what gets me to the bone about this type of information and instruction? Do you honestly think the majority of amateur golfers have the necessary strength and flexibility to do what McLean's talking about? No way! This is excactly why I do what I do (fitness for golfers). To educate golfers of the importance of golf-specific strength and flexibility to be able to do things like this x-factor. Mike you know what gets me to the bone about this type of information and instruction? Do you honestly think the majority of amateur golfers have the necessary strength and flexibility to do what McLean’s talking about? No way! This is excactly why I do what I do (fitness for golfers). To educate golfers of the importance of golf-specific strength and flexibility to be able to do things like this x-factor.

]]> By: Double Eagle http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-1026 Double Eagle Sun, 09 Dec 2007 14:13:30 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/#comment-1026 I was thinking that same thing, especially since Annika Sorenstam had back problems early this year, as well. In the article, McLean pointed to several players that use this move such as Jim Furyk, Joe Durant, Hal Sutton, Robert Allenby, and Carl Pettersson, aside from Sorenstam. I don't recall any serious back problems in those other players, so maybe it's a coincidence. There are a bunch of <a href="http://www.golfdigest.com/instruction/swing/search">swing sequence videos</a> available at Golf Digest. In a sampling of them, I can also find a little head swivel in Ernie Els (not much) and J.J. Henry. It seems like the key is just letting the head release naturally with the rest of the upper body, which to me, seems more natural than keeping it in place as the rest of the body rotates under it. McLean did say the move is the most controversial, so maybe we'll get to see some thoughts and reactions from other teachers. I was thinking that same thing, especially since Annika Sorenstam had back problems early this year, as well.

In the article, McLean pointed to several players that use this move such as Jim Furyk, Joe Durant, Hal Sutton, Robert Allenby, and Carl Pettersson, aside from Sorenstam.

I don’t recall any serious back problems in those other players, so maybe it’s a coincidence.

There are a bunch of swing sequence videos available at Golf Digest. In a sampling of them, I can also find a little head swivel in Ernie Els (not much) and J.J. Henry.

It seems like the key is just letting the head release naturally with the rest of the upper body, which to me, seems more natural than keeping it in place as the rest of the body rotates under it. McLean did say the move is the most controversial, so maybe we’ll get to see some thoughts and reactions from other teachers.

]]> By: TP Golf Online http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-1025 TP Golf Online Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:38:34 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/#comment-1025 I wonder how much that contributed to Duval having back troubles? I wonder how much that contributed to Duval having back troubles?

]]> By: Double Eagle http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-1024 Double Eagle Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:03:17 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/#comment-1024 Wow, that's an amazing amount of swivel! I sort of remember that about his swing, but it's been a while since I've seen him play. It's clearly there, though. I'm amazed not just at the amount he has as he gets close to impact (6th frame), but how much he's already got when his left arm gets back parallel to the ground (5th frame). That has to be 30 or 40 degrees by the time he gets to impact! Wow, that’s an amazing amount of swivel!

I sort of remember that about his swing, but it’s been a while since I’ve seen him play.

It’s clearly there, though. I’m amazed not just at the amount he has as he gets close to impact (6th frame), but how much he’s already got when his left arm gets back parallel to the ground (5th frame).

That has to be 30 or 40 degrees by the time he gets to impact!

]]> By: TP Golf Online http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-1021 TP Golf Online Sun, 09 Dec 2007 05:45:32 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/2007/12/08/triple-x-jim-mclean-updates-his-x-factor-concept/#comment-1021 David Duval was famous for his head swivel also, though not as noticeable as Annika's, his head did swivel towards the target prior to impact. Look at the difference from the <a href="http://www.jogagolf.com/portugues/swinganalysisp/golfswingp1/golfswingp1.html">4th to 5th frame</a>. David Duval was famous for his head swivel also, though not as noticeable as Annika’s, his head did swivel towards the target prior to impact.

Look at the difference from the 4th to 5th frame.

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