Comments on: Effectiveness of the Stack and Tilt Swing http://www.lifeintherough.com/2009/01/15/effectiveness-of-the-stack-and-tilt-swing/ My Quest to Become a Golf Pro Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:20:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Harv http://www.lifeintherough.com/2009/01/15/effectiveness-of-the-stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-18630 Harv Sat, 10 Sep 2011 03:58:48 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/?p=1212#comment-18630 I do think it is a much better swing to teach to beginners. It does not depend upon shifting from right to left. It starts out with the fundamental of all great swings: weight in front of ball and hitting down on the ball, with a divot in front. I do not think that stack and tilt is the way for pros. There is less weight shift going forward, less opportunity to create a large arc of the swing. Stack and Tilt allows me to be more consistent. Also, to better hit on the sweet spot of the face of the club. That counts for a lot of swing speed. I could understand why one would play one method one year, and switch to another. Hopefully, the end result is a better swing. I do think it is a much better swing to teach to beginners. It does not depend upon shifting from right to left. It starts out with the fundamental of all great swings: weight in front of ball and hitting down on the ball, with a divot in front. I do not think that stack and tilt is the way for pros. There is less weight shift going forward, less opportunity to create a large arc of the swing. Stack and Tilt allows me to be more consistent. Also, to better hit on the sweet spot of the face of the club. That counts for a lot of swing speed. I could understand why one would play one method one year, and switch to another. Hopefully, the end result is a better swing.

]]> By: Randy Rasmussen http://www.lifeintherough.com/2009/01/15/effectiveness-of-the-stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-18629 Randy Rasmussen Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:59:34 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/?p=1212#comment-18629 Hey that is a great explanation specifically not shifting the fulcrum. I might have to give it another try. The driver didn't work for me. Hey that is a great explanation specifically not shifting the fulcrum. I might have to give it another try. The driver didn’t work for me.

]]> By: Randy Rasmussen http://www.lifeintherough.com/2009/01/15/effectiveness-of-the-stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-18628 Randy Rasmussen Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:56:57 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/?p=1212#comment-18628 Steve Elkington, Mike Weir, Tommy Armour III, etc. have all left Stack and Tilt. The reasons they give are different but they don't think they played well with the technique. Maybe it is a better way to hit the ball for an average golfer? Steve Elkington, Mike Weir, Tommy Armour III, etc. have all left Stack and Tilt. The reasons they give are different but they don’t think they played well with the technique. Maybe it is a better way to hit the ball for an average golfer?

]]> By: Harv http://www.lifeintherough.com/2009/01/15/effectiveness-of-the-stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-18585 Harv Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:34:21 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/?p=1212#comment-18585 The Stack and Tilt is particularly made for the amateur. It is no surprise that the founders of the technique may want to use the traditional approach, which allows for more power to be focused on the ball and swing. The problem is that the traditional swing is very difficult, witness the few people who ever master the swing compared to those who try. The Stack and Tilt is an easier approach that is helpful to amateurs like me who do not have a lot of time to practice, and a lot of money to spend on professional coaches to continually improve the swing. The Stack and Tilt does not depend so much on a significant weight shift from right to left. It does not depend so much upon switching between two fulcrums for the swing, from right hip to left hip. The swing starts out with the fundamental of all great swings: weight in front of the ball and making the bottom of the swing in front of the ball. The Stack and Tilt would be easier to teach to newcomers to golf and would more quickly get people out there swinging! And since Golf has been declining in recent years, this may be one solution amoung many. The Stack and Tilt is particularly made for the amateur. It is no surprise that the founders of the technique may want to use the traditional approach, which allows for more power to be focused on the ball and swing. The problem is that the traditional swing is very difficult, witness the few people who ever master the swing compared to those who try. The Stack and Tilt is an easier approach that is helpful to amateurs like me who do not have a lot of time to practice, and a lot of money to spend on professional coaches to continually improve the swing. The Stack and Tilt does not depend so much on a significant weight shift from right to left. It does not depend so much upon switching between two fulcrums for the swing, from right hip to left hip. The swing starts out with the fundamental of all great swings: weight in front of the ball and making the bottom of the swing in front of the ball. The Stack and Tilt would be easier to teach to newcomers to golf and would more quickly get people out there swinging! And since Golf has been declining in recent years, this may be one solution amoung many.

]]> By: Lobwood http://www.lifeintherough.com/2009/01/15/effectiveness-of-the-stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-10447 Lobwood Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:40:21 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/?p=1212#comment-10447 I play weekly in a golf league and have had consistency problems recently. I also know in order to improve, you must play or hit balls a couple of times a week which I don't do much anymore. I'd find myself lately getting in trouble off the tee. I'm playing with custom shafts built by a proffesional clubmaker so I contacted him and told him my problem. I'd thought maybe something in my swing had changed to cause me the need to have the tork and kick adjusted or have a new shaft installed. He said to swing by and we'll have a look see at what's going on. Now, the story.. He has me hitting balls on the laser analysis tool he uses to dictate clubhead speeds, open/closed clubfaces, trajectory, ball speed/flight ect. (I'd really like to have one of these at home!) He says, does this look like what you're doing? Yep, pretty much not hitting it where I aim. So after making a few changes here and there on my address he tells me to put 80% of my weight on the left side and keep it there and hit me three more balls. "I'm making a long story short here." I hit three more balls and he says now look at this. I walk around to the computer screen and see one line indicating the balls direction. I said, well that's great! Straight down the middle! But I hit three balls, where are the other two? He pulled up the trajectory screen and I saw that I'd hit those three balls all on the same line but I couldn't see them till he pulled up the trajectory of the three I hit. I've been taught the "Stack and Tilt" without knowing it until I started doing some research on golf swings. Now according to his computer, I've increased my drives from 260yds to 290yds with the longest being 292yds. and to top it off, they're straight! I'm 53yrs old and have had a 10-14 hdcp. The last round I played I shot a 78 on a Par 72 course. If this is the results of Stack and Tilt, I'll take it!!! I play weekly in a golf league and have had consistency problems recently.
I also know in order to improve, you must play or hit balls a couple of times a week which I don’t do much anymore. I’d find myself lately getting in trouble off the tee. I’m playing with custom shafts built by a proffesional clubmaker so I contacted him and told him my problem. I’d thought maybe something in my swing had changed to cause me the need to have the tork and kick adjusted or have a new shaft installed.

He said to swing by and we’ll have a look see at what’s going on. Now, the story..

He has me hitting balls on the laser analysis tool he uses to dictate clubhead speeds, open/closed clubfaces, trajectory, ball speed/flight ect.
(I’d really like to have one of these at home!) He says, does this look like what you’re doing? Yep, pretty much not hitting it where I aim. So after making a few changes here and there on my address he tells me to put 80% of my weight on the left side and keep it there and hit me three more balls. “I’m making a long story short here.” I hit three more balls and he says now look at this. I walk around to the computer screen and see one line indicating the balls direction. I said, well that’s great! Straight down the middle! But I hit three balls, where are the other two? He pulled up the trajectory screen and I saw that I’d hit those three balls all on the same line but I couldn’t see them till he pulled up the trajectory of the three I hit. I’ve been taught the “Stack and Tilt” without knowing it until I started doing some research on golf swings. Now according to his computer, I’ve increased my drives from 260yds to 290yds with the longest being 292yds. and to top it off, they’re straight! I’m 53yrs old and have had a 10-14 hdcp. The last round I played I shot a 78 on a Par 72 course.

If this is the results of Stack and Tilt, I’ll take it!!!

]]> By: Deb Callen http://www.lifeintherough.com/2009/01/15/effectiveness-of-the-stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-9700 Deb Callen Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:17:20 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/?p=1212#comment-9700 Am a fifty-ish female who has struggled with swing consistency despite lessons, practice, and a general love of golf. Picked up S&T book at library, and just from reading the S&T summary in the beginning was able to duplicate it at practice. Could consistently make very good ball striking contact immediately. Unfortunately, I took it to the course too soon. Forgot the pronounced left knee bend and swing fell apart. But immediately went to driving range again and figured out problem. Ball striking immediately improved. Also, must say that hip thrust and butt tuck are very important. Can't wait to get out on the course, again. Luvvvv stack & tilt so far! Am a fifty-ish female who has struggled with swing consistency despite lessons, practice, and a general love of golf. Picked up S&T book at library, and just from reading the S&T summary in the beginning was able to duplicate it at practice. Could consistently make very good ball striking contact immediately. Unfortunately, I took it to the course too soon. Forgot the pronounced left knee bend and swing fell apart. But immediately went to driving range again and figured out problem. Ball striking immediately improved. Also, must say that hip thrust and butt tuck are very important. Can’t wait to get out on the course, again. Luvvvv stack & tilt so far!

]]> By: Glenn Bowers http://www.lifeintherough.com/2009/01/15/effectiveness-of-the-stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-9483 Glenn Bowers Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:07:19 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/?p=1212#comment-9483 I like the consistency of this swing. I have always had problems with inconsistent iron contact. My swing was a bit too shallow and sweeping. That worked well on the driver and fairway woods but not so great on iron approach shots. I switched to stack and tilt last year and I broke 80 for the first time ever, I shot 78 on a VERY tight course with small greens. That was 5 shots better than I ever shot on that course, I also only lost 1 ball where I was losing 4-5 before. This swing will help eliminate the fat, embarassing iron shots and make you more consistent. The bottom line is it works! I had a friend try it who hits it a mile already and his irons were like night and day different with one trip to the range! Give it a try and watch those scores drop! I like the consistency of this swing. I have always had problems with inconsistent iron contact. My swing was a bit too shallow and sweeping. That worked well on the driver and fairway woods but not so great on iron approach shots. I switched to stack and tilt last year and I broke 80 for the first time ever, I shot 78 on a VERY tight course with small greens. That was 5 shots better than I ever shot on that course, I also only lost 1 ball where I was losing 4-5 before. This swing will help eliminate the fat, embarassing iron shots and make you more consistent. The bottom line is it works! I had a friend try it who hits it a mile already and his irons were like night and day different with one trip to the range! Give it a try and watch those scores drop!

]]> By: bigal http://www.lifeintherough.com/2009/01/15/effectiveness-of-the-stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-8409 bigal Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:25:11 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/?p=1212#comment-8409 i found with driver to play the ball forward in my stance.still keeping weight forward but head centered behind the ball worked well for me.i hit several drives of roughly 320yds my last round ball striking was a little inconsistent but with a little practice i think the stack and tilt method will be alot more consistent.im trying it based on the claims of consistency because i hit the ball fairly long anyway hope i have the same results as everyone else.my last round was the first time i had actually hit any golf balls with the method and shot an 84 if i could have made some putts it could have possibly been my first ever round in the 70's. i found with driver to play the ball forward in my stance.still keeping weight forward but head centered behind the ball worked well for me.i hit several drives of roughly 320yds my last round ball striking was a little inconsistent but with a little practice i think the stack and tilt method will be alot more consistent.im trying it based on the claims of consistency because i hit the ball fairly long anyway hope i have the same results as everyone else.my last round was the first time i had actually hit any golf balls with the method and shot an 84 if i could have made some putts it could have possibly been my first ever round in the 70′s.

]]> By: Canadianpro http://www.lifeintherough.com/2009/01/15/effectiveness-of-the-stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-7799 Canadianpro Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:31:36 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/?p=1212#comment-7799 The "inside scoop" on Mike Weir leaving Mike and Andy had to do with his wanting to use parts of the S&T model and Andy insisted that he had to make a total commitment to the process.....even though he is back with his old coach, you still see elements of the S&T in his swing The “inside scoop” on Mike Weir leaving Mike and Andy had to do with his wanting to use parts of the S&T model and Andy insisted that he had to make a total commitment to the process…..even though he is back with his old coach, you still see elements of the S&T in his swing

]]> By: Kent Carter http://www.lifeintherough.com/2009/01/15/effectiveness-of-the-stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-7529 Kent Carter Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:41:56 +0000 http://www.lifeintherough.com/?p=1212#comment-7529 I recently switched to the Stack and Tilt and it has worked wonders for my game. I have played for eight years, taken lessons, and played hundreds of rounds. I always struggled to break 100 and 90 after eight years. I played alot of very good shots, but i would still hit alot of fat shots, my iron play was inconsistant. I used to joke that I was consistently inconsistent. After adopting the stack and tilt swing, i began to make better contact with the ball and improved my game by 7to10 strokes per round. My fat shots and duffs have vanished. My irons are crisper and 5 to 10 yards longer and hitting it much straigher with spin to hold greens. Results with my Driver are not as good. Hitting it well, but really did not gain or loose distence over my original traditional golf swing. The best thing about the swing is that I learned it in just two trips to the range, played today in the cold and shot a 89. If a had made a couple of lip out putts it could have been 85. For me that is a great round. The S&T is a easy swing to learn and for me it really worked. If you struggle with your game like I have, do yourself a favor and at least give it a try. Looking for 80 using the Stack and Tilt. I recently switched to the Stack and Tilt and it has worked wonders for my game. I have played for eight years, taken lessons, and played hundreds of rounds. I always struggled to break 100 and 90 after eight years. I played alot of very good shots, but i would still hit alot of fat shots, my iron play was inconsistant. I used to joke that I was consistently inconsistent. After adopting the stack and tilt swing, i began to make better contact with the ball and improved my game by 7to10 strokes per round. My fat shots and duffs have vanished.

My irons are crisper and 5 to 10 yards longer and hitting it much straigher with spin to hold greens. Results with my Driver are not as good. Hitting it well, but really did not gain or loose distence over my original traditional golf swing.

The best thing about the swing is that I learned it in just two trips to the range, played today in the cold and shot a 89. If a had made a couple of lip out putts it could have been 85. For me that is a great round. The S&T is a easy swing to learn and for me it really worked. If you struggle with your game like I have, do yourself a favor and at least give it a try.

Looking for 80 using the Stack and Tilt.

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